March, 2009
Molly was kind
enough to write in and share her story:
Hi,
I don't have a question on any thing you have for sale.. but do want to
ask about your research on the fake turquoise stones....we recently
purchased a large stone from China.. 24# nugget.. I tested with a hot
needle, and it has not been 'stabilized" no plastic smell...., I came on
line looking to see if I could find info about this large piece and
where it was dug.

Hi
Molly,
Nice
to hear from another turquoise nugget owner. The hot needle
test
won't tell you much of anything unless it is a reallllllly cheap
imitation.
Would
be of most help to me and since I haven't updated either of my sites in
a while, would be a link to the item you bid on, the price you got it
for and a couple good high res photos of your nugget. I could
do
quite a bit with that minimal amount of information.
What
is your intent with this piece? I am unfamiliar with the
sizes
you mentioned - never hard of turquoise listed like that. Is
it a
single piece for jewelry, something to be broken down for multiple uses?
Some
of the fake stuff is quite impressive and beautiful in its own right,
just so long as you know what you are paying for and prospective buyers
know what they are getting.
Anyway,
if you feel like sending a bit more detail along, I would be most
interested.
Dan

Mike
took it over to the gem store in Moscow, Id. It was a large specimen
piece...24#s it actually was a piece of died Howelite (sp) the seller
is going to give Mike the money back ( a pretty penny). The seller had
gotten it for another dealer, actually traded him a lot of his jasper
inventory.... so he was pretty upset... the story was that it was dug
in a mine in China...the reason I got on line in the
beginning
was to see if I could find a news article about it because it was such
a huge piece.... that was when I ran across the articles about fakes,
and I just had a gut feeling about the whole thing.
thanks for getting
back to me. we appreciate it.
Molly

Hi
.....just following up with some pictures of the 24# Chinese
"turquoise" nugget. It ended up being dyed howelite.... the man we
purchased it from returned our money,and planned on contacting the
individual he got it from. thanks for your assistance.
Now
that is one awesome chunk of fake rock!
January 2010
Update:
Bud
was kind enough to send this along:
Dear pdldavis,
Wow, thanks for posting your fake turquoise guide, so glad to see it!
I've
recently heard from Chinese students at the school where I work that
they also reconstitute jade, lapis, malachite, amber, coral, pearls
(can you imagine!!) and other gems so I don't buy from anyplace in
china now since I don't know what I'm getting.
I buy from US
sellers to help our economy and even then ask if they can guarantee
that the gems are undyed, untreated, un-reconstituted, etc. and for
turquoise specifically, what mine it came from.
Asking what mine
tends to help lower fraud risk...and being educated on the mines and
what the turquoise looks like from the mine helps too. I am even
cautious about antique stuff from China too, since just because it's
older does not mean it's fake.
Thanks again for posting,
Bud
Comment:
Thanks
for taking the time to write. I as well as many others
probably
weren't aware of the extent to which minerals can be reconstituted,
packaged and sold as the real deal.
Good
idea to question which specific mine the mineral came from as
well. As you said, it is also a great reason to buy American
in
these trying times.
~Dan
01/17/10 - I'm bored today. Let's see what's going on in the world of Fake Chinese Turquoise......

Looking
at this fine piece of Chinese dyed Howlite, I can see that there
are still a lot of suckers out there. I also noticed that fake
Chinese rocks have lately taken on a spiritual quality.
Apparently fake dyed Howlite has rare healing powers, as
well do other minerals emanating from the world of creative
things to do with toilet bowl cleaner.
Anything else worth
noticing? Not much, other than this must be one large hunk of
Howlite and it doesn't really look like a 'Crystal Sphere' , as
advertised in the title.

Boy I'm feeling better about this already.
It is High Quality!
It is so surprising beauty!
And it's only about $200.00 a pound!

The
thing that stands out about this other than the joker's spelling
problems, is that if you discover the fake, he wants to refund
you your money before you get the chance to leave negative feedback.
That way, he can keep the complaints to a minimum and continue
scamming as many people as possible.
What else is going on out there............

Here's
a better looking Fake Chinese Turquoise rock and this is a bit
different in that an Anglo is holding it in his hand. This piece
of junk is better looking than others. I had a look at this guy's
store and it looks like he mostly sells the genuine article and
he obviously has no clue when it comes to evaluating turquoise.

Now this is interesting looking and I have no idea whether this is fake or the real deal.
I am leaning towards the real deal and if I was interested in this piece, I would notify the seller that it is going
to be examined six ways from Sunday and if it is not authentic
turquoise, there is going to be bad feedback beyond belief,
followed up by numerous complaints to the Ebay Fraud Squad - assuming
there is one.

I
see the extremely rare form of White Chinese Turquoise is still out on
the streets and selling for pennies on the dollar. My guess is
that the scientists creating their last batch of 'authentic'
turquoise forgot to go to the store for more TidyBowl Cleaner and
rather than lose the batch, declared it one of the rarest of minerals and tried
to pass it off for $19.95.
Don't believe me?

I'm
getting better with Photoshop (except for the feathering part) and I would guess with the proper amount
of TidyBowl cleaner, this gem-class piece could have been
called Royal Peacock Blue Turquoise, imbued with only the
finest of spiritual essences and found only in the remote Howlin Cho Fakee
mines of northern China.

Well,
this one is a little less gaudy and I used an alternative method in
this fake Chinese turquoise nugget display. Now I get to learn
about removing artifacts - but not today. Not bad, though!
08-14-2010 - A New Term Arises: The Variegated Fake Chinese Turquoise Nugget
Trolling around Ebay for the latest in superior Chinese Turquoise Nugget craftsmanship, something changed.
I
think someone learned a new word, and that would be 'Variegated'.
There also seems to be some attempts at minimal disclosure - how
to disclose that what is being sold is in essence a fake without having
to say the actual word.
 

......and of course there are those who have no qualms about selling you 'genuine' Yellow Chinese Turquoise.
A Stab at Honesty - Howlite Turquoise!


The howelite in this photo is amazingly similar to the 'genuine' yellow Chinese turquoise in the previous photo.
Never a dull moment in the land of fake Chinese turquoise.
2011 - A New Year! Lets see what the purveyors of Fake Chinese Turquoise are up to..............

My,
they have been busy. Turquoise now comes in all colors of the
spectrum I think I like Hot Pink and Jet Black the best,
although I am somewhat affected by the calming colors of pale pink.
I wonder if any of these stones are scented as well, I mean if
you think Americans are total suckers, the why not go after it whole
hog. Something like:
'May
I present for your sensuous pleasure, the rare blush rose
turquoise. Found only around ancient pyramids in Eastern China
(at least that's what they say on Coast to Coast), this blush
colored turquoise takes on the lingering scents of roses
past, imbuing it with an ethereal quality and spirtitual essense found
nowhere else in the world.'
............and it's yours for only 99 cents a strand.
I
think the most original new idea is buying fake Chinese turquoise in a
party pack (two over, three down), or the natural freeform frog.
If
you are cogitating on buying some turquoise this year and are confused
by the myriad possibilities presented on Ebay, and don't know where to
turn........you've come to the right place.
Simple guide for buying turquoise:
If
what you are looking to buy resembles any of the images in this collage
and it is being passed off as turquoise and it purports to come
from China or Australia in particular, it is NOT TURQUOISE.
And
I don't want to cause too much disappointment out there but the
'natural freeform turquoise frog' shown here is NOT NATURAL, NOT
FREEFORM and NOT TURQUOISE.
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